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A (former) Primitive Methodist Chapel is listed at Kings Norton in the 1940 Statistical Returns of Methodist Church Buildings. It was made of iron, seated 120 on chairs and had one additional room.
To take the story back a little further, I’ve added a transcript by David Tonks of the return from Middleton in Teesdale Primitive Methodists for the Census of Places of Public Religious worship.
I’ve added a transcript of the return from the 1851 Census of Places of Public Religious Worship. You can see why they needed to build a big chapel!
I’ve added an account of the opening of the chapel in 1867 from the Primitive Methodist magazine. There is some fascinating detail.
Thanks for the information Chris; the story lives on!
Thanks to Susan Lloyd for corrections to the information on this page: “I have been shown the information on Hatfield Methodist chapel and need to inform you it is incorrect.
To my knowledge, via the town council Clark, the building is not listed.
I can also inform you that it most certainly is not a private dwelling now nor has it ever been, but it still houses 68th Doncaster Hatfield scout group. I am a current section leader!”
I have a book “Epping Forest” by Henry Hawkins inscribed: “Presented to Lily Ward from the Primitive Methodist Sunday School Great Hale Christmas 1900”
(and other items of the period).
Lily married Fred Barber (son of Charles Barber of Langriville). She was my grandmother.
Very sad that Harris died so young.
Can anyone help resolve the difference between the two sources of the information about this chapel? It is not unusual for memories and facts to change over a 40 year period! And what’s the current position with the redevelopment?
I’ve now added detail of the opening
And now the account of the 1865 opening.
On 30 March 1851 this minister and his colleague John Heath (1818-1907) were both lodging with Peter Ellis, a forge man at the Iron works, in Wombridge, Shropshire.
Thomas Davies is recorded as having been born in 1817 in Wistanstow, Shropshire. Although his whereabouts from 1855 to 1871 are uncertain, he reappears on 2nd April 1871 living in Shrewsbury, married to Sarah (born 1814-1815 in Yarmouth, Norfolk). Both give their occupation as “Town missionary”. Perhaps further details of this couple and their work will materialise?
Presumably this photo is of a chapel once located at Prospect Place, Ashton-On-Ribble, Preston.
Thanks for the further detail Gordon. It would be good to add a picture or two of the old chapel; please send to email@example.com and we’ll add them on
I was christened at the old Primitive Methodist Chapel which, as Jill Whitehead says, was located near Cadnam roundabout on the A31. My late father was society steward and was involved in the move from the Primitive Chapel to the old Congregational Chapel which is the one shown in the photograph above. I was married at the “new” chapel as was one of my sisters. All three of my children were christened there too. Until the old chapel was demolished in the 1970s, it was used by 1st Cadnam Girls Brigade until the brigade became too small and joined up with the larger 1st Totton Girls Brigade several miles away. I do have photographs of the old chapel if anyone would like them to publish on this page.
I am seeking information about Albert Victor Murray especially any information regarding archival holdings. If you could let me have copy of Milburn, G.E., Albert Victor Murray 1890-1967: an outline chronology, 1991 I would be much obliged. I think Murray was a remarkable man and am surprised that he has received so little attention. I see him primarily through his work on African colonial education which was in advance of its time and did not make him popular with missionaries and the Colonial Office. Many thanks
Thanks for the clarification and information Chris. I have amended the account (including Guisborough for Gainsborough – not sure where that came from), added a map and removed the entry from the unknown chapels category, which is always a satisfying thing to do. It would be good to add a picture of the former chapel as it now is.
Thanks for the clarification Tim. I have amended the wording on this page and moved the map to the Aspley Guise page. Do we know where the Woburn Sands chapel Mr Turner writes about was and whether it still exists?
I think it should read “Guisborough” rather than “Gainsborough” the chapel is still there.
Pease and Bell were ironstone mine owners.
Zetland, Chalenor and Wharton were all ironstone landowners around Skelton.
Thank you both for your insight and articles. I can see how the name of the road is likely to be “Wandle” and Googling the address for the structure at 51 Wandle Road is nice to see. So to Mr. Dickinson and Mr. Thornborow, thank you for your historical knowledge and willingness to share information on Dennis Kendall, the Primitive Methodist Church and the Wandle Road location.
Lillian Annie was my grandmother and died in 1974. my memory could be faulty, however I recall that she told me that she was one of six children.
Right last night I noticed a few anomilies with regard to this Chapel. First I noticed the Grid Reference was wrong so I checked my go to source the Coflein Welsh Monuments Database which I have found to be always correct. The Grid Reference given was the same so I checked the Grid Reference location and this Chapels site Grid Reference is NGR SO 1902 8025 as the Chapel is clearly showing its location on the early OS sheets. But the NGR given SO 2052 7542 is the location of another Brook House in Beguildy Parish. This site is remote and not the most accessable of places but given that Coflein has never been wrong in all the years I have used it I thought I should bring to your attention this second site. Given my current health I am not able to get out but just to confirm or deny this second Brook House is not the actual Chapel site or indeed may be a second Chapel site would be useful to both parties. I am certainly encouraged by the early OS sheets showing a building oddly placed away from the main complex. I hope this is of interest.
I have just found his dual passport
Aspley Guise and Woburn Sands had separate PM chapels. The chapel in this article was the Aspley Guise chapel in Aspley Hill. The Bedfordshire Community Archives website explains that this part of Aspley Guise was transferred into Buckinghamshire in 1965 http://bedsarchives.bedford.gov.uk/CommunityArchives/AspleyGuise/PrimitiveMethodismInAspleyGuise.aspx
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