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Rev J Dann married my great aunt Cissie in the Primitive Methodist Chapel on Hopping Hill, Milford, on 20th July 1907. That is Hannah Martha Bott marrying Samuel Holmes. It is reported in the Belper News as follows: “The Rev. J. Dann officiated and there was a large number of friends present to witness the ceremony. The service was choral. Mr Wm. Cheltham presided at the organ, and the hymns sung were “The voice that breathed o’er Eden” and “We join to crave the blessing Lord.” The chapel had been prettily decorated by members of the congregation and friends. The bride, who was given away by her father, wore a dress of cream eolienne trimmed with Brussels net and choice silk Maltese lace (the latter being the gift of a brother of the bride), her embroidered net veil being fastened with a spray of orange blossoms. She carried a bouquet of choice white flowers. Miss Dorothy Bott, Birmingham, cousin of bride, and Miss G Bradley, Derby, attended as bridesmaids. Both wore dresses of flowered voile trimmed with cream lace and large cream lace hats, and carried shower bouquets of lilies and roses, gifts of the bridegroom. Mr A. Bott acted as best man”
This is wonderful to read – Rev Dinning is my great great grandfather through Florence and John Kinnish. My grandfather was Douglas John Kinnish. Thank you! I hadn’t seen these particular images. I have a very good one of the youngish Rev Kinnish with his wife and babies. Jonathan Greenland
My great-grandfather, the Reverend John Redhead, was the Minister at the Clayton West PM Circuit between 1887 & 1890. The Baptism register shows he conducted his last baptism there on 2nd July 1890. In 1910 he wrote his memoirs and had this to say about his time at Clayton West: “At Skelmanthorpe I superintended the building of a Large School-Room and 9 Class Rooms, and the complete remodelling of the Chapel, built a New School room at Cumberworth, and secured land and built a New Chapel at High Hoyland, and saw great Revivals at Skelmanthorpe and Cumberworth at which over 100 souls were saved.” Does anybody know the identity of the W B Lodge who laid the foundation stone? The Baptism Register shows of the about 145 baptisms he conducted during his 3 year tenure quite a few bore the surname “Lodge”.
Between 1887 & 1890 my great grandfather, the Rev John Redhead, was the Minister for the Clayton West PM circuit. At the time I believe the manse was just round the corner from the Skelmanthorpe Chapel in Saville Road (can anybody confirm this?) In 1910 he wrote his memoirs and had this to say about his time at Clayton West: “At Skelmanthorpe I superintended the building of Large School-Room and 9 Class Rooms, and the complete remodelling of the Chapel, built a New School room at Cumberworth, and secured land and built a New Chapel at High Hoyland, and saw great Revivals at Skelmanthorpe and Cumberworth at which over 100 souls were saved.” I am amused to see the lamp-post rather spoiling the view in the second photo. The Huddersfield Chronicle of 10th November 1888 reported on the Skelmanthorpe Local Board meeting of the previous Wednesday. This is an extract from the article: “A letter was read out from the Rev J Redhead on behalf of the Trustees of the Primitive Methodist Chapel asking the board to place a lamp near to the Chapel gates. – After the matter had been discussed it was decided not to grant the request at present.”
I am researching my Norton family history. Edwin Norton, 1845-1890 lived in Sutterton Street, and attended your Church as a Superintendent there, and I was told there was a plaque in his memory, and I wonder if it is still there. He was my maternal great grandfather. I live in Australia, so will not be in England in the forseeable future to check this out personally,
Rediscovered yesterday a ‘shield’ for Enoch Parkinson who died in Bakewell. It is in four parts and the leaded inscription is largely missing but is complete. A shame I cannot post a photo here.
Karen Friends of Hull General Cemetery
I’m looking for Rev George Kendall’s grandsons. I believe that one of them, George Kendall, was in touch with my sister, Berry Mayall, who is, with me, granddaughter of Rev George Standing. I am presently writing an account of my family and am in need of more information about my grandfather, Rev George Standing.
Thanks for the additional information Vicky. I’ve amended the wording on the page.
The original chapel was not demolished in 1928, as Keith Guyler’s notes say. It survived until July 1941, when it was damaged in an air raid and had to be demolished. What was demolished in 1928 were neighbouring cottages in order to build Sunday School premises.
Thanks for pointing out the typo, which I have now corrected.
I would like to respectfully comment that Edward Rogers married Lucy Eveline Howlett in late 1979, not 1879!
We recently read the term “Abolitions of the Primitive Methodist Connection”, but by negotiated agreement it became part of a unification with other Methodist groups in 1932 and agreeably known by the title ‘United Methodist’, the word church then mainly used instead of chapel, later the word united not used. By choice a person can change their faith but it can’t be Abolished what a person believeth. Some Primitive Methodist Chapels did not by their own choice join the unification for various reasons and to include the lack of gender equality with preaching but these chapels had diminishing financial support and no longer a supportive circuit chapel so some of these “Continuing Primitive Methodists” congregations became poverty-struggling and their chapels compelled to close yet some congregations gracefully joined the unification later. The Cumberworth PM chapel was one of them independently until 1947.
I’ve added the return from Chacewater Primitive Methodist chapel to the 1851 Census of Places of Public Religious worship. It confirms the opening date as 1830 – and thriving congregations.
I’ve added the Creegbraws return from the Primitive Methodist chapel to the 1851 Census of Places of Public Religious worship. Return no: 307 5 1 16
I’ve added the return from the Primitive Methodist chapel to the 1851 Census of Places of Public Religious worship. Return no: 307 5 1 8
One good piece of additional information: I’ve added the return from the Primitive Methodist chapel to the 1851 Census of Places of Public Religious worship. Return no: 307 3 2 22
The building with the car park, opposite the chapel, was the Sunday school attached to the chapel. It became the chapel for the village when the original chapel was sold and turned into a house in 1995
I have a coin token with the shield and biblical characters on one side I know nothing about this other than it is the markings of the IOR Can anyone please let me know if they are aware of tokens looks like made from zinc
Thanks for the correction and additional information Jenny. I have now added the chapel and the photograph to our partner My United Methodists website here.
This photograph is not of the Primitive chapel in the village, which was to be found further down the High Street, but of what was the United Methodist Free church built in 1881. Before that there had been a Reform/Free chapel on the site from 1851. The Primitive chapel in Saxilby was on the site now occupied by the local fire service. There was also a Wesleyan chapel at the top end of the High Street, opened in 1839 as a centenary chapel, but closed in 1940 when all three denominations united and built a new chapel. This chapel has now been sold (March 2021) to the Plymouth Brethren.
Dear friends in Christ,
Having recently rediscovered a long-lost painting, I share my testimony with you. Born in 1941, I was brought up in Farnborough, Hampshire. My earliest acquaintance with the Christian Faith came through Farnborough Street Methodist Church. Sadly, my father was an atheist, but my dear mother took me and my two sisters to the services. I will always thank God for the early grounding in the Christian Faith by faithful Sunday school teachers.
Now I have rediscovered a painting I did of the Crucifixion at the age of 10 or 11. It first hung in the old Primitive Methodist chapel (1866), then in the new building (1952). Sadly, the church closed in 1986. However, the picture was retrieved by a former member and passed on to my late elder sister Sylvia (d. 2006). I had never set eyes on it for over 50 years! It was eventually placed in our attic with other items, then forgotten about. With Easter approaching, I thought of the painting. We searched with great difficulty and much frustration. After specific prayer and looking high and low, we eventually found it!
Without doubting some reality in the faith of my childhood, the full impact of the painting’s significance came later. A period of teen-rebellion ended with my evangelical conversion through the local Anglican Church of the Good Shepherd in May 1958. I was confirmed at the Old Parish Church in 1959. Sensing God’s call, I seriously contemplated entering the Anglican ministry.
Since embracing the insights of the Puritans in 1962, a lot of water has passed under the bridge; but I thank God for the grounding of those early years. To cut a long story very short, I am now nearly 80, continuing to serve the Lord Jesus as the Pastor of Norwich Reformed Church. How much longer is all in the LORD’s will.
Dr Alan C. Clifford
I expound the painting’s message with a hymn written about twenty years ago (see beneath).
Christ Crucified (Matt. 27; Gal. 3: 1)
BEHOLD the immortal Lamb On Calvary’s altar slain, Behold the crown of shame, His agony of pain; Let all adore! O may our souls Sing Jesu’s praise for evermore!
2 Behold the cruel words, The mockings and the scorn, More cutting than the nails, More piercing than the thorns; Let all adore! O may our souls Sing Jesu’s praise for evermore!
3 Behold the awful sight, The Lord of glory marred, Perceive His broken heart, The sigh before He died; Let all adore! O may our souls Sing Jesu’s praise for evermore!
4 Behold the outstretched arms, The victim’s head bowed low, For in this scene appears More glory than we know; Let all adore! O may our souls Sing Jesu’s praise for evermore!
5 Behold, this sacrifice Was purposed by our God, For He prepared the cross, The life to be outpoured; Let all adore! O may our souls Sing Jesu’s praise for evermore!
6 Behold, for from that place God’s love and justice shine, That glory might be His, That pardon might be mine; Let all adore! O may our souls Sing Jesu’s praise for evermore!
7 Behold the life He gave, But finished are His pains; The Saviour lives to save, The Lord of glory reigns! Let all adore! O may our souls Sing Jesu’s praise for evermore!
8 Behold His throne of grace, No longer need we fear; With joy we see His face, With confidence draw near; Let all adore! O may our souls Sing Jesu’s praise for evermore!
9 Behold the immortal Lamb! His blood was shed for all! With wonder bless His name, With faith upon Him call! Let all adore! O may our souls Sing Jesu’s praise for evermore!
Alan C. Clifford (1941 – )
Christian Hymns (2004), 234 (vs. 1, 5-8); Tune: Rhosymedre (66 66 888)
The building is presently in need of underpinning, tilting somewhat to the south!, and it is hoped to place it into a Trust and privately fund its restoration as a church.
I’ve added a picture of the chapel in 1988 from the Keith Guyler Methodist chapel archive
There is a photograph of Froghall Chapel, on page 103 of a book by Basil Jeuda, entitled The Churnet Valley Railway, published in 1999.
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