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I have found this chapel marked on three old maps; go to https://historic-liverpool.co.uk/old-maps-of-liverpool/ and see 1890 map (North Liverpool), 1898 Plan of Liverpool and 1910 map. An easy way to find Maguire Street is: Find Trafalgar and Victoria Docks. From the quay between these two dock, go East. Cross Waterloo Road and down Oil Street. Cross Great Howard Street and down Chadwick Street. Cross Love Lane and down Chisenhall Street. Cross Vauxhall Road to entrance to Arley Street. Maguire Street lies parallel to Arley Street to the South. The chapel is halfway along Maguire Street, on the right if looking East.
Another chapel donated by Henry Adams was the Henry Adams Memorial Hall, part of the Sheffield Upper Heeley Primitive Methodist Mission. See here.
Leavenng Primitive Methodist Chapel was restored and refurbished ten years ago at a cost of £100’ – this would be in 1882. Ref : Bulmer’s History and Directory of the East Riding of Yorkshire 1892.
The Primitive Methodist Chapel was built in 1835 at a cost of £120 In 1865 £30 was spent on repairs. The chapel could accommodate a 100 people. Ref Bulmer’s History and Directory of East Yorkshire 1892
I can confirm that there are absolutely no remains of this chapel on a recent visit to the site, just modern housing. 9th Aug 2020.
Continuing my earlier post: I have found Maguire Street on https://historic-liverpool.co.uk/interactive-maps/old-streets-liverpool/#16/53.4164/-2.9883. It lay between and parallel to two roads that still exist: Eldon Place and Ford Street. It was presumably lost when the Kingsway Tunnel was built starting in 1966. You might also like to add a link from your ‘Merseyside: Primitive Methodism on Merseyside’ to this page since that description covers the origins of the chapel as a Swedenborgian chapel, and how the chapel became ‘the parent church of Liverpool Primitive Methodism’.
Thanks for the comment David. After closure, Methodist chapel and circuit records were often placed with the local authority archive service, so Tyne and Wear Archives would be the place to start. Good luck with the search.
The 1939 Register shows 19 people living in Maguire Street Liverpool – only houses 76-86 (even numbers). I don’t have Ancestry etc but someone could check before and after the Maguire Street entries for adjacent roads.
It was still operational in 1952, as I was personally Christened there, as were many of my relatives. A new Methodist chapel was built in High Howdon as a replacement, with the rationale for the move (as I vaguely remember) that High Howdon was a newer centre of population with better opportunities for sustainability in the future, as the old area around Norman street had a declining population. If anyone knows if the records of the chapel still exist, I would be interested in accessing them
Who owns the chapel now, it is in such a state of disrepair. Is it for sale?
I have in my possession a China mug celebrating the Independent Order of Reechabites. It belonged to my grandmother who died in 1973. She was a staunch Methodist, in fact the local chapel was built on th e boundary of the family house. I have no idea of its history and the China mark is not precise but is definitely early 20 th century.
Unfortunately the stone inscription on the chapel front was never changed, but a wooden banner cleverly constructed by Mr Glyn Lander with the words in relief was placed over the original stonework. This recently (2018) became partially detached during a snowstorm and the wall now proclaims to the world that the chapel is a Primitive Baptist Church! This will be no doubt be corrected in due course.
In 1851 Asfordby East End Primitive Methodist chapel provided 60 free and 50 other sittings, 110 in all. In 1940 the accommodation consisted of a chapel measuring 26 feet by 24 feet and seating for 100 persons in pews. There was also a schoolroom measuring 24½ feet by 24 feet but no other rooms. The chapel was situated on the north side of the village street towards the east end. Sources The National Archives,1851 ecclesiastical census HO129/418/2/10 (Melton Union) White’s Directory of Leicestershire, 1863 p 594 John Rylands Library University of Manchester, DDPD1 Methodist Church Buildings: Statistical returns including seating accommodation as at July 1st 1940/694 (Melton Mowbray Circuit) OS 25 inch Leicestershire XIX 7 1883/4
I remember the ruins of this chapel, it dissaperared around 2001. The location is Ryleys Pool owned by the Hodnet Angling club http://www.hodnetanglingclub.co.uk/waters/ryleys-pool/
I’ve added a sketch of the chapel from the other end of its life
Thank you. Jane Barber, for this new information.
Thank you for these pictures. Thank you to the Brown family and his grandson Mr Lawson. These photos and the history on this site in general have been a Godsend to me.
I wonder if there are any pictures of Rev. Humphrey Richardson (Nigeria-Agbani)?
God Bless you all.
Above comment continuing: I have John Hill’s family tree going back 3 generations to John HILL, born about 1759, and continuing to the present. He came from three generations of North Wales coal miners based in Buckley. Can anyone throw light on his first station – ‘Stratford’? Probably not east London or Stratford-upon-Avon; one site suggests ‘Stretford’ in Manchester. I have found his name in several Preaching Plans: Middleton 1872-4 and Liverpool II 1877.
Jane and Jaqueline – Many thanks for the additional information about Charles.
Thanks to Mandy and Sarah for your further information.
Sir Charles married twice. His first wife, Sarah Annie Oldfield, died in 1918. He then married Winifred Theresa Christina Whitehouse in 1920.
There were two sons from his marriage to Sarah Annie Oldfield – Kenneth and Leonard and a further two, from his marriage to Winifred – Derek and Philip.
Kenneth moved to Sussex, England in 1955 and Leonard moved to Brisbane, Australia. Both Derek and Philip died at the age of 19; Derek in Switzerland and Philip was drowned in the sinking of the SS Ceramic, Dec 1942.
I, Jane Barber (née Mortimer), am the daughter of Kenneth Mortimer. Sir Charles was my grandfather.
This John Hill is my mother-in-law’s grandfather. I have been gathering information on him for many years and visit his grave in Saughall often. Delighted to see this page. The Ryland Library had given me the photo you show as John Hill 1826-1907. I fear you may be right as there is a similarity with that John Hill’s 1907 photo.
I’ve added a picture of the previous Prim chapel at Sandford Hill
Scalford Primitive Methodist chapel was built of brick in 1835. In 1940 the chapel which measured 34 feet by 23 feet had seating for 150 persons in pews. There was a schoolroom (25 feet by 18 feet) and a side room (27 feet by 12 feet) but no other rooms. Sources The National Archives,1851 ecclesiastical census HO129/418/3/3 Whites Directory for Leicestershire, 1868, p 378 John Rylands Library University of Manchester, DDPD1 Methodist Church Buildings: Statistical returns including seating accommodation as at July 1st 1940/695 (Melton and Oakham Circuit) OS 25 inch Leicestershire XIII 10, 1884
As at August 2020 the current circuit plan for the Trent and Dove circuit gives the postcode as DE13 8PH.
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